Episode 93

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Published on:

29th Nov 2024

Where does "Friday After Next" rank in the Friday movie trilogy?

"Friday After Next" takes us to Christmas time in South Central LA with Craig (Ice Cube) and Day-Day (Mike Epps), two cousins who just can't catch a break. Their holiday season kicks off with a bang when a ghetto Santa Claus (Rickey Smiley) raids their apartment, stealing their rent money AND their presents. The boys take jobs as security guards at an urban strip mall to make their rent money back before their landlord's musclebound son Damon (Terry Crews) comes collecting. The most wonderful time of the year turns into a wild adventure in the hood.

Topics discussed:

šŸŽ„ It's a Christmas movie

šŸ‘„ We see an evolution of the dynamic between Craig & Day-Day

šŸ˜‚ There is a shift to a more slapstick style of comedy

3ļøāƒ£ This was the last Friday installment for more than two decades ā€“ until the fourth movie, which is scheduled for release next year

šŸ•ŗšŸ» The movie helped launch the career of Katt Williams!

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Our episodes on Friday and Next Friday

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Speaker:

Welcome to Hip Hop Movie Club, the show that harmonizes the rhythm of hip hop

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with the magic of movies.

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Today we're discussing Friday After Next,

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the third installment in the Comedy Classic Friday series

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starring Ice Cube,

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Mike Epps, and John Witherspoon.

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We're three old heads who put their old heads together to vibe on these films for you.

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I'm DynoWright, podcaster, filmmaker, longtime hip hop fan,

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and watch me whip, watch me Day-Day.

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I'm JB, 80s and 90s nostalgia junkie, longtime hip hop fan.

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And as both Whodini and Moly, the strip mall and donut shop owner in this one remind us,

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the freaks come out at night.

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The freaks come out at night.

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You

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I love that album.

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I'm Boogie, a DJ, long time hip hop fan.

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And I just recently went to the WBLS 50th anniversary

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featuring DJ Cassidy's Pass the Mic Live

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Had some old school artists, just a few Melle Mel, Full Force, Roxanne Shante, Nice and

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Smooth, the reunion of 3rd Bass,

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Dres from Black Sheep, Pepa from Salt and Pepa, BBD, and

a bunch of other R &B acts as well.

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and a bunch of other R&B acts as well.

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It was real, real dope.

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In this episode we'll answer the question,

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how does Friday After Next rank in the Friday movie trilogy?

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And we'll give you five key takeaways to make you a smarter hip-hop movie fan.

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Today, we unwrap the

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most festive chapter of the Friday franchise.

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Friday After Next takes us to a Christmas time in

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South Central LA with Craig and Day-Day, two cousins who just can't catch a break.

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Their holiday season kicks off with a bang

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when a ghetto Santa Claus raids their apartment,

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stealing their rent money and their presents.

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The boys take jobs as security guards at an urban strip mall

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to make their rent money back before their landlord's muscle-bound son comes collecting.

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The most wonderful time of the year turns into a wild adventure in the hood.

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And here are five things you need to know about Friday After Next.

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The first one, it's a Christmas movie.

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Number two, we see the evolution of the dynamic between Craig and Day-Day.

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Third one, there's a shift to a more slapstick style of comedy.

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Four, this is the last Friday installment for more

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more than two decades until the fourth movie, which is scheduled for release next year.

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And the last one, the movie helped launch the career

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of the hilarious Katt Williams.

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All right, now let's kick it off talking about the first one.

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This Friday After Next is a Christmas movie.

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We love our Christmas movies and we're releasing it as we're kicking off the holiday season.

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It's the first and only holiday themed entry in this series.

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So there's some little unique elements that you see like the robber that was dressed like Santa Claus

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and some of the challenges with their gifts were stolen and things like that.

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But yeah, I mean kind of puts you in the mood,

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but I feel like there was a little bit meat left on the bone with what they could have done with Christmas time.

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It's not one that you automatically think of like, hey,

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it's Christmas time, know, let's put on Friday After Next.

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What are your guys' thoughts about?

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No, not a classic.

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It's kind of like, that's the backdrop.

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Sure, it's Christmas time, but yeah.

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Yeah, I think the first thing that comes to mind when you call it the Christmas movie is the long standing debate

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surrounding Die Hard.

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Is it or isn't it a Christmas movie?

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Elsewhere in LA.

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Exactly.

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But yeah, one thing that they did, they did a couple of things right.

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I think even though there was a Santa robbing the apartment, they-

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did play one of the all-time classic Christmas songs at that time, which was the Temptations' Silent Night,

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which I think was very clever.

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And I was like, okay, you're trying to set the tone.

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They also

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had the animated sequence

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for the opening credits

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that had the, it was like a remix of the Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy

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from act two of the Peter Tchaikovsky

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Nutcracker.

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I was like, okay, all right, they trying to get it going.

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then there was also the classic ā€œThis Christmasā€ that played while they were on their way to work.

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And I thought that like those were like they were trying to get it going.

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But like you guys said, it kind of fell a little short, left a little meat on the bone.

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I mean, they did have a Christmas party at the end, if you want to call it that.

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But yeah.

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Yeah, the soundtrack is laden with Christmas tracks, like you mentioned.

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Santa Baby is played in it as well.

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There's a few other ones.

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I'm glad you mentioned that cartoon after the initial live scene, and it was a cartoon.

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It was reminiscent of the intro to National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation, which I always enjoyed too.

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It was kind of offbeat humor.

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Yeah, so those elements were nice.

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Santa Claus really does go straight to the ghetto.

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Without a chimney to slide down.

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Yeah, I I prefer again, East Coast bias.

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I want snow in my Christmas movies.

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You know, I want to feel that and warmth of a fireplace.

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I want to see reindeer, all that stuff.

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All the accoutrements.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So yeah, it is a Christmas movie, but don't be like,

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I want to sit down with the family and watch a Christmas movie.

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You might be disappointed.

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Like you don't get all the feels of Christmas.

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family if you're gonna this for your family.

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Right, right, right.

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So the next takeaway that Boogie mentioned is

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we do see an evolution of the dynamic between Craig and Day-Day.

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It grows.

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So Boogie, you want to kick us off talking about how that evolves here?

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Yeah, I mean

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in the last Friday movie that we talked about,

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you know, we suggested you guys a view Next Friday

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you can kind of get the intro to Day-Day and we don't really see

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and we don't really see

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too much of, you know, of the

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chemistry that we saw between Craig and Chris Tuckerā€™s character of Smokey.

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I think with this one, it starts to evolve a little bit.

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We started to see a little bit more of it.

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I mean, they start to finish one another sentences.

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I mean, there's more of the busting on each other back and forth between the two of them.

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Yeah, Craig, Craig, he mentally abuses Day-Day in this movie.

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Like this one line, like, you know,

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they're talking and Craig just looks at him says, don't try to out think me, man, you might hurt yourself.

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I'm like, wow.

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And like he's physically tossing him around.

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Like when they're trying to go somewhere, he's like, hey, man, just get him.

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He just grabs him and toss him.

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Man, stop throwing me around.

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So it's kind of hilarious to see that.

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But then, know, Day-Day actually does get a couple of smart one-liners in there too.

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Like I know the funniest one is,

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that I think is one of the funniest ones to me, and I say this all the time, is when

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Craig is trying to talk to Donna's character outside of the

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store and Day-Day just runs over to him and say, know, hey, I'm Day-Day,

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this is my big head cousin Craig,

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you know, Bevo Laddy, got mo head then he got body.

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I say that all the time.

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That was very good.

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That was really good.

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And just this constant, you know, reminding Craig, you know,

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we're Top Flight Security of the world, Craig.

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You know, I say that all the time too.

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Anytime I see security

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trying to do too much, I call them Top Flight.

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That's really good.

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Canā€™t help it.

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Top Flight.

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They mention that many times.

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The Top Flight. Weā€™re Top Flight Security.

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And Day-Day like abuses his power.

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You know, he's halting the girls until they give him the number.

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like he I was cracking up when there's those three older older ladies were just come around caroling

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and he was like cursing them out.

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And then Craig had had to defuse them.

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Yeah. That was wild.

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Yeah, I do see the dynamic had grown like

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in the movie Next Friday.

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It's kind of like he moves out to his cousin and uncle's house.

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And it's almost like they hadn't seen each other in forever.

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And now it's like,

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it looks like they grew up together

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and theyā€™re one liners back and forth.

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so yeah, and they become,

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I guess, quote unquote, business partners or coworkers.

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And I was cracking up the way they were

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fitting themselves into that little security

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booth, pushing each other back and forth.

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It was a little juvenile, but

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It was funny. Yep.

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They had a very like Laurel and Hardy kind of relationship,

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Yes.

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especially with

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Craig being the Oliver Hardy kind of

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always cracking on Day-Day.

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Yeah.

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It was a good rapport.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, opening scene when the intruder comes in and Craig's

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fighting him off and

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Day-Day is just daydreaming about women

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and ridiculous food and he wouldn't wake up.

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He's just talking in his sleep.

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And that set the tone for

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the dynamic between the two.

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Yeah, that was, was fun, fun dynamic.

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A great buddy movie with two of them, for sure.

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And again, this bleeds into, I guess, the next

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topic or takeaway was that

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the comedy is more of a slapstick

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style of comedy.

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It's not all about like the weed and just like

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meandering through

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that whole.

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it's like

a lot of slapstick back and forth.

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We kind of hinted at at that already,

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but you want to take us a little bit

more into that, BooGie?

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Yeah.

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I mean,

we start to see some of that slapstick

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comedy like it

becomes a little more physical, as well.

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Like we see, like we mentioned with,

you know, Craig and Day-Day,

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he's always tossing Day-Day around and

like, we see that over the opening when,

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Craig tries to stop Santa from robbing him

and Santa beats him

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with the Christmas tree. Like.

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Like what?

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You know, he's trying

to, you know, then the police come over

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and in his trying to describe him is,

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you know, ODB in a Santa Claus suit

and the cops have funny names.

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So, yeah.

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Even the interaction when we first see,

Terry Crewsā€™s character of Damon, when,

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they're trying

to, you know, sneak out to go to work

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and he's standing there and he said, come

in, give me a hug.

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You just kind of snatches them up.

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He's like squeezing them,

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you know, just the

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the constant, like, you know physical,

like over the tops of, like, weā€™re

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re-ntroduced to, Uncle Elroy and Pops.

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Their, their barbecue commercial,

you know, tastes

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so good, you want to slap your mama,

you know, and he Pops

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taps his mom on the shoulder and actually

actually physically slaps her on camera.

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It's like what?

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But, Yeah, it's just it's like,

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just constant stuff like that is going on

throughout the movie, you know,

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interacting with, you know, our favorite

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pimp slash store owner Money Mike.

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You know, the even with Moly,

you know, it was just a lot of that stuff.

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I mean, it's just over the top.

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It definitely my kind of humor.

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I love that.

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That's why

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I always love, like, Three Stooges

and Three's Company and all that stuff.

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So the physical comedy, like,

it had me laughing a lot.

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Throughout

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the the copsā€™ names were A.

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Hole and B. Dix. Yeah.

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But and I alluded to before the

my opening

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and Moly was like,

the freaks come out at night.

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He's referencing Whodini.

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A couple times they come back to ā€œyou

got knocked the F out,ā€

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which is a callback to, in the scenes

with Deebo in the first movie.

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You guys catch

the one store was called Toys in the Hood?

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Yes. Love that,

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love that.

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And one actor that had a smaller

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cameo was Chris Williams, was Vanessa

Williams brother in real life.

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He was the shoplifter with the girl

pretending to be pregnant,

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which I thought was a funny,

funny scene where he was.

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He was kind of having a, like a seizure

of sorts of fake seizure and,

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he's in one of my all time

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favorite episodes of Curb Your Enthusiasm,

the episodeā€™s called Krazee-Eyez Killa.

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And if you haven't seen that one, that

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he plays a prominent role in that one.

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The dynamic between him and Larry David,

you could only imagine.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. So

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the style of comedy was right up my alley.

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Miss Pearly,

also the landlord seducing Willie.

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That was a funny scene.

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Yeah, that was hilarious.

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Yeah.

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We got to mention John Witherspoon,

his signature comedy,

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where he's over enunciating the words.

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Love it.

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He had to go to the bathroom.

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Had to go to the bathroom.

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That whole thing. Yes.

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Yeah.

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At least one and one time in the movie,

he's going to have to make a dash for

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the bathroom somewhere.

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Yep. Oh man.

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Always funny.

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Always funny.

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Yeah.

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So comedy I was cracking up.

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It was, it was very funny.

I like the slapstick style.

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I'm an easily amused guy

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and this was mildly amusing,

but I didn't think it was as funny

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as the original Friday.

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And so. Yeah,

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well, the original Friday,

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it has those iconic lines

that perpetuate throughout.

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It's a different kind of movie

too, different kind of comedy.

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Yeah. Right.

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Yeah.

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It's you know first

Friday was more serious than this one.

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Yeah. True.

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I find it funnier because it was

more serious then this was like straight

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slapstick and I don't my

I like slapstick too and everything.

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But yeah,

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I wasn't laughing as hard

as some of the things

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that I was laughing at in the first one.

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Right?

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Yeah, yeah.

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The first Friday, the dialogue was,

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was dialogue propelled that movie like.

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Yeah.

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Because it was like even like,

you know, there weren't a lot of like

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flashy or action type scenes

or where's the like a lot, a lot going on.

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There's moreso dialogue

and just sitting around and just,

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you know, people just sitting around

having a conversation.

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But the one liners that came out of those

convos was the straight up

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classic material.

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Yeah.

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I mean, still like

cultural touchstones for me.

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Yeah, yeah yeah yeah, definitely.

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So one of the things mentioned like I,

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I think the first Friday

probably holds up as the best, right?

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I mean.

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Oh yeah. Yeah,

yeah. That that's a classic.

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You're going to tell somebody

watch Friday.

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It's the original like a lot of trilogies

or sequels like the first one.

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It's like yeah.

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The one you have to see. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We see the same thing

with, the House party series.

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It's like the second one didn't

hold up as well as the first one,

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and most people

have never even heard of the third one.

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Even little on the fourth one. Yeah.

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Like there's a third and fourth one?

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I'm like, yeah. There are.

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I've never watched the fourth one.

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I've watched the third one. But yeah.

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The fourth, the one with Kid ā€˜nā€™

Play in it, or the fourth

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one that came out like last year?

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No, the fourth one.

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It was like a House Party 4.

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Yeah, thereā€™s a House Party 4. Yeah.

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In the house.

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It follows the same storyline,

but like the House party three

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shows, kid get married and introduces

his cousins, his younger cousins, and they

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they're the main characters

in the fourth one.

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Yeah, right. Sure.

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But yeah, exactly. Sure.

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It sounds great.

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Right?

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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Like Breakinā€™ and Breakinā€™ 2, right.

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Breakinā€™ is solid.

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The Breakinā€™ 2 was good for a bit

and then went off the rails.

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Yeah.

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You gotta have Breakinā€™ 2: Wrath of Khan

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The secret of the ooze.

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Yeah.

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Oh, man.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Khannn!

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C C O N N.

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Khan.

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Speaking of sequels and trilogies

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and whatnot, this movie Friday After Next

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is the last Friday installment

for more than two decades

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until the fourth movie, which is scheduled

for release next year, apparently.

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So we're just looking at that.

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Yeah.

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So even as of June of 2024,

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Ice Cube was saying

that it's in the works.

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For 2025. Itā€™s in the works.

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There's an article from Entertainment

Weekly that, talks about it

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June and according to Ice Cube heā€™s

not actually that pleased

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that it took so long,

obviously 23 years. To.

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Get the next one, especially since

major characters have now since passed,

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like John Witherspoon and Tiny Lister and,

Anthony Johnson are all gone.

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Oh yeah.

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Yeah, even though Ezal

wasn't in this third movie.

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You know, he was.

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You know, pretty good character

from the first one.

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Yeah. There's no Deebo in this one either.

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Yeah.

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The Deebo role is played by Terry Crews.

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Yeah.

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He's the muscle, different muscle

this time.

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Yeah.

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Different muscle. Yeah.

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That's right. Right.

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And this one took us back to the hood.

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So original Friday was in the hood,

South Central.

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And the Next Friday

they move out to the suburbs with,

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Day-Day and Elroy

and then back here to the hood.

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So you have more of the urban feel

with the strip mall.

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A lot of it happens.

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A wild and crazy strip mall. Yeah.

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So. So one thing that I did notice

about the strip mall.

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And this is a callback to, Boyz n

the hood.

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There was a liquor store, and a check

cashing place in the strip mall.

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That's right. Yeah.

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It's like.

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Yeah, I was like, yep there we go,

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there we go.

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Art imitates life. Yep.

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Yeah.

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So where it was.

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Right? Right, right. All along.

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Furious is right.

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It was one of Terry Crews' earlier movies, but

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what I think is more impactful is the movie helped launch the career of Katt Williams.

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That was our fifth takeaway.

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Katt Williams played Money Mike and he was hilarious

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as he was fending off Terry Crews in this one

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and with his pimp style and way of speaking.

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And it was around the same time where he was launching his comedy career,

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his standup comedy.

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And Katt Williams is a...

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He's everywhere today, media mogul.

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And this is early, early days of Katt Williams getting that recognition on the big screen.

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Katt was he he every scene he was in it was just fun so funny

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because I mean for one I mean his physical stature

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he's a little guy

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but he talks so big

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yeah he talks very big and

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yeah he talks so big

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it's just like you know if you've seen any like

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you know 70s you know

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blaxploitation flicks and you've seen any pimps in those kind of movies

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he's he's carrying that persona

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like full on steam through this movie but in a very

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comedic tone and the thing about it, his character is not trying to be funny.

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He's absolutely dead serious,

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but you can't help but to laugh at it because it's so hilariously over the top.

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I mean, he's down to his dress.

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I mean, he's got the permed out hair, which

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became a signature of his.

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He's got the flashy, shiny clothes on, the hat, the glasses, the rings.

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And, you know, I mean, he's even has a...

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a cameo scene with him

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and Bishop Don Magic Juan, know, who's

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well known in the hip hop world for accompanying Snoop throughout his journey.

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There's the one liners that come out of his mouth, like you know,

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pimp in distress, pimp in distress.

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It's like, what?

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That was part of my favorite parts of the movie even though I didn't particularly find it all that funny.

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He was really funny and he wasn't even that loud, but he talked big.

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Yeah.

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The way, the one part when, you know, after, you know, Craig and Day-Day,

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you know, foil the shoplifters, you know, plot to get away with some clothes.

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And he's walking towards the booth with the blade

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and the way they grabbed him up, his feet are just kicking in the air as he snatched them up.

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And then when he meets Damon at Craig and Day-Day's party and he...

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and Damon snatches him

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and he's like, ooh, that was like I was in the Matrix.

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It's like, man

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That was good.

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I do I do like some of the other pop culture references.

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They referenced Deion Sanders and doing the Deion dance

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now Deion's back in the spotlight as the Colorado coach.

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And it's just something about Barry Bonds and I love sports references.

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So I want to Barry Bonds you with this.

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Yeah, Uncle Elroy came out with the bat.

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Mm hmm.

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Yeah.

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That kind of stuff will be memorable for sports fans and kind of

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date what timeframe where these guys were at the top of their game.

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Both Barry Sanders and Deion Sanders as players.

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Hall of Famers.

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For sure.

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Yeah, so.

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Yeah, There you have it with Katt Williams,

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big time role for him, on his meteoric rise there.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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He's internationally known right now.

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I think right now there's a lot of

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references to his name in the media because

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not to bring a dark cloud, but there's this whole situation with P.

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Diddy that's been going on.

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And Katt Williams mentioned stuff about this like

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years ago and everybody thought he was joking

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years ago and everybody thought he was joking and he was dead serious.

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Like, wow. Seems like Katt was right along.

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seems like Katt was right all along.

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Mm-hmm.

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Katt well Katt, Katt's with

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the Club Shay Shay right with Shannon Sharpe heā€™s on his show

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is he regular on the show or he's he's is he co-host?

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I don't know.

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I know he's I've seen a lot of clips with him with him

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Now he had a long infamous interview with Shannon

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on that Club Shay Shay where he just kind of

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was open and honest.

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- I'm airing everything out.

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He just called out everybody.

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He called out everybody.

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Yeah.

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He put it out that like Hannibal Burress did with Cosby

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We got you.

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Yep, yep.

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So there you have it with Friday After Next.

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We covered all the aspects here.

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If there's anything left out, speak up.

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Otherwise, we can go around do our ratings of the movie.

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(record scratching)

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Boogie for Friday After Next.

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Would you bring that funky flick back

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or leave it in the vault?

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I mean, despite I'm not being fully on with it being a Christmas movie,

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even though, you know, it's got the undertone, saying, yeah, I'm gonna bring that funky flick back.

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I enjoyed it.

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I don't think it holds up to the original, but it was good for some laughs.

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I hear you.

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DynoWright, Friday After Next.

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Bring that funky flick back or leave it in the vault.

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Despite me not being all that-

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laughing at it so much, I will bring this funky flick back.

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It has a few good laughs.

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Yep, and I'm aligned with you guys.

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I will bring this funky flick back.

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Again, I'm a big fan of slapstick and it did have me laughing quite a bit.

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Yeah.

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So I enjoyed it.

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Right on.

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Wow, look at that, that's a trifecta.

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All three Friday movies bring that bring that that

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We did it, guys.

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Yeah, we don't need Cube on our bad side.

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

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you got a hat trick, man, a hat trick.

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(laughing)

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Hip Hop Movie Club is produced by your HHMC's JB, BooGie and Dyno Wright.

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Theme music by BooGie.

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We've got a bunch of live events in 2025 coming up.

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You can learn more at our website, hiphopmovieclub.com.

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On February 5th, 2025 at SteelStacks in Bethlehem,

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we are presenting a screening of Breakinā€™

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with some live breakdancing demos.

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Tickets at SteelStacks.org.

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Whether you're listening to the podcast or watching us on YouTube,

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please give us a follow.

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It's a real power up for us.

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Thanks for tuning in.

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And remember, don't hate, meditate.

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Namaste

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Yeah.

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Nice job, fellas.

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Yessir!

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Hip Hop Movie Club
Harmonizing the rhythm of hip hop with the magic of movies
Upcoming Hip Hop Movie Club events:

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HHMC is brought to you by a trio of longtime hip hop fans: JB, an 80s and 90s nostalgia junkie, BooGie, a veteran DJ and graffiti artist, and DynoWright, podcaster and filmmaker.

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