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Welcome to Hip Hop Movie Club, the show

that harmonizes the rhythm of hip hop with

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the magic of movies.

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Today we're discussing State

Property, a violent: 2002

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starring some early members of the

Roc-A-Fella Records conglomerate,

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including a small role by Jay-Z.

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We're three old heads who put their old

heads together to vibe on these films for

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you.

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I'm Dyno Wright, podcaster, filmmaker,

longtime hip hop fan, and my favorite part

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of DMX's video for What's My Name?

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is the two seconds that Jay-Z shows up in.

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I'm JB, 80s and 90s nostalgia junkie,

longtime hip-hop fan, and I rate Beanie

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Sigel's Rock the Mic among my top 100

hip-hop tracks of all time.

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I'm Boogie, a DJ, long time hip hop fan,

and I'm so excited.

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Because I just found a spot to repair and

calibrate my Technics: 1200

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I'm going back to vinyl.

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Yes.

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In this episode, we'll answer the

question, is State Property worth

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watching?

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And we'll give you five takeaways to make

you a smarter hip hop movie fan.

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Here are the five takeaways.

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Number one, the movie is violent and

brutal.

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Number two, there are copious amounts of

nudity and right from the jump.

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Number three, there's no real character

development or plot line for that matter.

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Number four, Jay-Z's talents are wasted in

this film as his role is brief.

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and consists mostly of mumbles.

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And number five, the soundtrack may be the

sole highlight of this film and just

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barely.

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All right, so you may be able to tell from

takeaways that this one has its issues.

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Boogie, I know you said you had seen this

one way back when it came out and really

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theme throughout is the brutality of it

all.

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You want to talk a bit about that?

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Yeah, so yeah, I remember when this movie

first came out and coincidentally, it was

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a part of my DVD collection.

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So it's definitely a violent movie.

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It takes place in Philadelphia and the

main character, Beans, is portrayed by

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Beanie Sigel and his right -hand man, Baby

Boy.

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And actually the whole crew is comprised

of members of State Property, the Philly

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group.

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minus Freeway and Peedii Crakk who were

legally predisposed from appearing in the

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film.

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We'll leave it at that.

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But it basically, Beans, he wants to

become like a drug kingpin because he's

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tired of being broke.

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And he gets his boys, his crew together

and they just basically start on a war

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path, if you will, to take over each

neighborhood of Philadelphia and

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surrounding areas to set up their empire.

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And along the way, they're, they just,

it's cold blooded.

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Whoever's in their way, if you don't get

down, you lay down and that's the mantra

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that they go by.

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And you see throughout this film, various

members of rival crews are basically just

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wiped out.

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And he's established his soldiers, if you

will, in those areas where people have

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worked for them.

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And then he starts.

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to build his empire and bring in more

money.

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But yeah, they start off, like I said,

taking out the rival crews.

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One guy, Futch, they, I mean, Beans just

brutally beat him with a bat and they just

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tossed him in a dumpster.

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I mean, even in the first scene of the

movie, Blizz,

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portrayed by Memphis Bleek just shoots

somebody in the strip club.

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And Blizz is basically the one who goes on

the war.

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He shoots a few people throughout the

movie.

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You know, Beans even, you know, takes out

violence on his own crew.

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You know, he shoots one of his guys E in

the hand because he talked back a little

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bit.

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And, you know, yeah, it's just a whole lot

of violence.

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I mean, you know, the violent shooting of

one of the...

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members who wouldn't, he actually wasn't

even a member of a crew.

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He was just kind of caught in the middle.

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It didn't respond quick enough.

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And you know, he was brutally shot about

five or six times.

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There's a shootout at a basketball game in

broad daylight, killing members of a rival

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crew.

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You know, People are getting robbed left

and right and in the robberies, they're

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not even getting spared, they're getting

killed.

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So if they're carrying drugs.

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They're killed, they're carrying money,

they're killed.

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And all of this is taken back to Beans to

feed his empire.

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Then we see some retaliation from another

crew where the boss of another crew played

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by Dame Dash actually kidnaps Beans'

girlfriend and her friend while at the

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club and executes the friend while Beans

is on the phone as a, you know.

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If you don't respond to what I'm asking

for, it was basically a ransom for his

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girlfriend.

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This is going to happen to her.

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Actually, his exact words were, she might

get sent back pregnant.

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And then, but still, it's just like, what?

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And I understand what was happening

because I have seen these type of things

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happen in other movies.

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But it was just the brutality of it all.

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We got to point it out.

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If you have a weak stomach for violence,

this is not your film.

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Yeah.

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Definitely, yeah.

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Brutal, brutally violent, senseless.

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I mean, all murders are senseless in my

opinion, but this was beyond senseless.

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It's kind of like, get down or lay down.

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I thought that was even like a lame

tagline.

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It's kind of like, so it's kind of like

equivalent to like, it's my way or the

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highway.

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Boom.

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Man, I had a lot of issues with this.

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Even Old head Futch

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Futch being beat to a pulp.

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It was just nasty, like stomach turning.

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And they just try to recruit the guys.

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If someone refuses to join them, they just

shoot and kill the young guy.

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That rival was named Butter.

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And I'm like, hey, Butter and Beans?

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Was that that boxer guy?

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I'm just kidding.

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Butter Beans.

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But I'd rather watch Butter Bean.

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Yeah, that was...

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have been more entertaining.

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It was rough.

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Dyno Wright, what are your initial

thoughts here about the violence and

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overall themes?

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there's using it to make a point and

there's just like, just dousing this with

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wanton violence for no reason.

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There wasn't much writing happening in

this movie, so sure, let's just have

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everybody get shot up.

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They didn't put much thought into this.

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It's like they didn't have any other

crayons they didn't have any other colors

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in their palette.

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Like, let's just shoot them.

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And you think with that much violence

happening for no reason, there wasn't like

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more repercussions.

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Like, you could just go around shooting

people and not suffer any consequences

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until like, you know, 80 minutes into the

film.

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real logical sense.

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None of this made any sense.

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What were you gonna say?

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a lot of surveillance was out there and

the proliferation of the cell phones with

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the cameras.

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So yeah, not realistic in today's day and

age, but yeah.

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that time.

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People just don't get shot up and nothing

happens.

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You wouldn't find out it was Beans after

all.

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Maybe, perhaps the police don't really

care that much about these lives, but

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someone in that world is gonna come after

Beans because it's not gonna be a big

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secret like who killed Futch?

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That happened in broad daylight.

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Yeah, there's DNA evidence all over the

place too.

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And if he's on the come up, there are

other established crews out there, like,

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whoa, this didn't attract anyone else's

attention.

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This movie should have lasted five

minutes.

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I think how they show Dame and his crew,

the old heads, they show them and he's

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like, yeah, look at these guys.

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They're all just kind of sitting around,

they're laughing, they're joking,

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everything is all sweet and everything.

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Because basically they weren't even,

nobody was responding.

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You're right, you're right.

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If all of this was happening in the

streets, they should have probably proper

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somebody.

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caught somebody's attention like, hey,

look at what the heck is going on over

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there.

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Like not even just the police, but like

other crews would have been like, okay,

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like what's going on here?

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Maybe we need to like get ready or arm

ourselves and like nothing happened like

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that.

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Yeah, you know, they didn't put much

thought into this.

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So like, figuring out like the

repercussions of their actions, like, they

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didn't even consider it.

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Why would they?

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This movie, like, didn't make any sense at

all anyhow.

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I remember like the late 80s and the 90s

when the crack first hit the streets and

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there was a lot of violence between crew

hoos because people were trying to make

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that quick money.

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But something would happen and like

immediately like the next day there would

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be retaliation.

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Like the war would last, like, you know,

like things would happen in the span of a

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few days.

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This was stretched out over a span of like

years and yeah.

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It wasn't...

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People's reactions weren't in sync.

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Something, yeah.

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shallowly written, written very shallow

and sure, anything goes.

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Sure.

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Climb to the top like real quick.

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like one big massacre that continued and

continued and continued.

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as a serial killer, but like, there was no

like attention paid to him.

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Right.

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so another takeaway that you mentioned

that, or I, when we came up with was there

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are copious amounts of nudity and right

from the jump.

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So that's just kind of maybe PSA.

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If you're watching this, you might be

shocked to see that, or you might enjoy

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seeing that.

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yeah, exactly.

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But it's one of those things that's like,

Hey, we could do what we want with this

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film.

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So we're going to do a lot of violence and

we're going to do a lot of nudity and.

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was kind of like what they did.

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I don't know.

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Yeah, I mean, not that much more about

that.

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Right, right.

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Definitely a lot of nudity as well.

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definitely one of those things where they

did it because they could, not because

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they should.

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Right.

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it didn't really add to the plot line.

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No, it was just.

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way high expectation for a movie like

this.

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Things make sense?

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Things should serve a story?

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First you gotta have a story.

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No story here.

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A lot of frequenting the strip clubs and a

lot of random women just sitting around

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with no clothes on for no reason.

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Yeah.

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the player's lifestyle that they wanted to

portray.

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The takeaway number three is there was not

any real character development or plot

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line.

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I know BooGie you did summarize kind of

what happened, but my big gripe with this

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was we don't really know about Bean's

upbringing or backstory.

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It's just like, hey, we wanna have the

American dream and we're just gonna take

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it into our own hands.

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our own hands.

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Are we supposed to like him?

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Are we supposed to root for him?

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I don't know.

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You know, I didn't really have a

connection with him either way.

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It's like, I don't know.

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It's like a lot of times with these crime

dramas, it's actually like a drama where

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it's like, man, he's doing some bad

things, but I can see where things went

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awry and he's kind of a good kid.

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And like, I hope that he...

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finds a way out of it somehow and comes to

a sense that in this case there was none

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of that.

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It was just like, this is a bad dude.

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He's doing bad things.

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Yeah.

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Set It Off as a prime example of that.

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You can see why they were put in a

position they were in.

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Yeah, an actual good film.

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An actual, like, real story.

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Yeah, stuff was, you know, things were

stacked against them.

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Yeah, we just saw them in a strip club.

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He's like, I'm tired of being broke.

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Well, you're broke because you're in a

strip club.

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Like, what?

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No, the whole thing is just so...

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I read a review that it...

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it looked like they wrote this in a

weekend, like they put the whole thing

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together in a weekend.

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This is like the kind of things you do,

the shortcuts you take when you only do

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things over 48 hours.

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Yeah, it's like, you know, we signed a

group out of Philly called State Property.

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We're just gonna get them all together,

get them a script, and put them in a

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movie.

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It's gonna be like one long video with no

music.

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Yeah, I'm sure there are music videos.

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I'm sure there are music videos that are

more character development than this

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movie.

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Yeah, I mean, I'm at a loss.

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That was a good comparison Boogie with Set

It Off where we discussed it in depth.

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It's like they're doing horrible things

with these bank heists, but the system had

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oppressed them so much and they had

personal experience and we understand why

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it happened.

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And there's some situations where, you

know, there's, there's a child involved

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and they want to get the better life and

they felt that there was no other, this

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was just like, Hey,

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Let's do this.

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You know, I don't know what know what is.

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It's like, at the end, not to give it

away.

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It's like, they're going to remember my

name.

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It's like, okay, but like, did you leave

some sort of legacy that people should be

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proud of?

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Or you're just like another statistic

of...

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you know, misguided individual.

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Yeah, I mean, the the only thing anybody

will remember is, like, this dude was

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crazy enough to have a shootout in a court

room.

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That was such a...

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That was such a...

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Where you gonna go?

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That was the rancid cherry on a rotted

icing of a sundae.

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Just like the dumbest thing that happened

in the dumbest movie I've ever seen.

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You realize you can't get out, right?

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You know, like the courthouse, there's

like an unlimited supply of police

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officers that's gonna come storming in.

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You can't get out.

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The only thing this movie needed was a

stunt double that was completely wrong

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age, like in Breakin' 2, and a mannequin

that falls down the stairs like in Breakin

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2.

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That would have made it complete.

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You imagine like having like in the

shootout scene, see like a random white

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guy with cornrows run by.

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With blonde cornrows.

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That's not mean.

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as a comedy, I think.

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Yeah, like a Scooby -Doo episode where

they take a mask off Beanie Seagull and

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it's some 80 -year -old white dude.

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Like, wait.

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All right, now it's interesting.

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I would have gotten away with it too, with

a few damn rappers.

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man.

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man.

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So in the end, the assassin, so Dame

Dash's boss is the assassin, like shoots

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Beans, right?

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And so we see him like ostensibly dying on

that table, but then there's a State

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Property 2 and he lives.

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Like what?

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Yeah, so...

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Does he live in the second?

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Is he in the second one?

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But is it his ghost?

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What's going on here?

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in like, I think they were trying to say,

if I can remember correctly, that whole

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scenario with the shootout was in his head

and it didn't really happen.

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And he was sentenced to go to prison.

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it was a dream.

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He wake up like Bob Newhart next to

Suzanne Pleshette.

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And like, ah, it was just a dream.

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That's even better.

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Every movie should end with Bob Newhart

waking up next to Suzanne Pleshette.

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People our age barely know what that

means.

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The young people look up Bob Newhart and

Suzanne Pleshette.

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And even the assassin was a Roc-A-Fella

artist.

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That was Amil, who was part of the Roc

crew and never really got the shine like

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she should have, because she actually did

have some lyrics, but that's besides the

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point.

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What are you gonna do?

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We're not gonna put you in these songs,

we're gonna put you in a small cameo in

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this film.

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Yeah, you're going to be the assassin.

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me the assassin forget that you're a you

can rap we're gonna put you in a small

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film as an assassin

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Yeah, more misuse of talent.

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More wasted talent.

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: 00:18:04

segue into takeaway number four was

Jay-Z's talents were wasted in this film

331

: 00:18:09

as his role was brief and consisted mostly

of mumbles.

332

: 00:18:12

I didn't get that.

333

: 00:18:13

I was like, ooh, Jay-Z, save this film.

334

: 00:18:17

He didn't.

335

: 00:18:18

Hmm?

336

: 00:18:19

Hmm?

337

: 00:18:19

He made a business decision, man.

338

: 00:18:21

Not to do anything.

339

: 00:18:24

Like, that's the thing.

340

: 00:18:25

Like, There's no character development, so

you don't know why he mumbles.

341

: 00:18:28

There's nothing.

342

: 00:18:28

It's like, let's have him mumble.

343

: 00:18:30

Sure.

344

: 00:18:31

Okay.

345

: 00:18:32

Whatever.

346

: 00:18:35

Yeah.

347

: 00:18:35

you can You can get a sense from the way

Dame consults him that they're at least at

348

: 00:18:42

the same level and the crew or Jay might

be at a higher level, but he's not even

349

: 00:18:49

paying attention to what Dame's Dame's

He's like, I think I need a a What?

350

: 00:18:56

It was bizarre.

351

: 00:18:57

It was kind of like, you're going to take

care of that, right?

352

: 00:19:00

You're going to, you know, why don't you,

why don't you just like kidnap them?

353

: 00:19:05

brilliant idea.

354

: 00:19:05

Let me get, like, it was just like, what?

355

: 00:19:07

I didn't get it.

356

: 00:19:09

they didn't tell him the camera was

rolling.

357

: 00:19:11

Just do what he's like.

358

: 00:19:14

Yeah, just be yourself.

359

: 00:19:17

What?

360

: 00:19:21

I mean, Dame Dash, for a movie of this

quality, such as it is, I think he was

361

: 00:19:30

trying.

362

: 00:19:31

The only one who was trying.

363

: 00:19:33

Yeah, he tried.

364

: 00:19:35

Yeah

365

: 00:19:37

is like he put up like double digit points

but in a game where the team scored like

366

: 00:19:44

64 points and they got blown out like 140

to 60.

367

: 00:19:49

I mean, that was rough.

368

: 00:19:54

You have Jay-Z who is a deity in the

hip-hop world and his talents are wasted.

369

: 00:20:05

Even back then, right?

370

: 00:20:07

He was a megastar already.

371

: 00:20:09

Yeah.

372

: 00:20:10

I said they were definitely established.

373

: 00:20:12

He was established back then, the label

was established and yeah.

374

: 00:20:18

I did enjoy seeing Jacob the Jeweler.

375

: 00:20:22

He needs his own movie.

376

: 00:20:23

His life must be a whole movie.

377

: 00:20:25

Hehehehe

378

: 00:20:30

Yeah, there were a few cameos in the

movie.

379

: 00:20:35

Jacob the jeweler.

380

: 00:20:37

DJ Clue had a small cameo.

381

: 00:20:41

He was informed, Dame that C-Zer was shot.

382

: 00:20:47

I was like, yeah.

383

: 00:20:48

And then finally, the soundtrack might be

the sole highlight of the film, but just

384

: 00:20:54

barely because Roc the Mic, as I said in

my intro, that's a great song.

385

: 00:20:58

And it's an opening scene with the strip

club and that's a great song.

386

: 00:21:04

Other than that, Sparks was the artist on

a lot of the songs.

387

: 00:21:11

It's not a really memorable soundtrack

except for Roc the Mic, in my opinion.

388

: 00:21:16

Do you guys pick up anything else in the

soundtrack?

389

: 00:21:21

I mean, I heard a couple of songs playing

in the movie that aren't on the

390

: 00:21:25

soundtrack.

391

: 00:21:26

I know there was a scene where Beans

rolled up to Butter's crew and informed

392

: 00:21:34

one of the guys to have Butters get in

contact with him.

393

: 00:21:40

And in that scene, I heard in the

background, Ola Hovito playing.

394

: 00:21:44

And I was like, okay, yeah, that's my

song.

395

: 00:21:46

But I'm like, that's not on the

soundtrack.

396

: 00:21:48

Okay.

397

: 00:21:49

then there was another instance when

Dame's crew was in the club and Aisha and

398

: 00:21:58

the girls were in the club and Dame sent

the bottle over to them.

399

: 00:22:02

The song Beanie was playing and I actually

do like that song.

400

: 00:22:06

But yeah, that's not on the soundtrack

either.

401

: 00:22:10

So I was like, huh, okay.

402

: 00:22:12

Got a bunch of Spark joints.

403

: 00:22:15

It's like a Spark vehicle.

404

: 00:22:18

Everybody gets to eat tonight.

405

: 00:22:22

State Property movie.

406

: 00:22:23

I didn't even listen to the soundtrack.

407

: 00:22:25

this movie wasn't worth my time as it was.

408

: 00:22:31

Man, so speaking of like reviews, this got

literally zero percent on Rotten Tomatoes,

409

: 00:22:38

which is hard to do.

410

: 00:22:41

I was looking at some other films that got

zero percent.

411

: 00:22:46

Return to the Blue Lagoon, like Police

Academy 6: City Under Siege.

412

: 00:22:56

Derailed, One Missed Call.

413

: 00:22:59

So many stuff that you never heard of

probably.

414

: 00:23:02

Not familiar with Derailed or One Missed

Call.

415

: 00:23:05

Yeah, there's a bunch of them.

416

: 00:23:09

This made I Got the Hook Up look like

Saving Private Ryan.

417

: 00:23:12

That's a good one.

418

: 00:23:15

I mean this, oof.

419

: 00:23:19

Yeah, the AV Club had a really great line

in their review.

420

: 00:23:23

It said, in any given scene about half the

characters sport clothes from the rap

421

: 00:23:26

mogul's Roca Wear line, making State

Property seem like the world's bloodiest

422

: 00:23:30

infomercial.

423

: 00:23:31

Nah.

424

: 00:23:36

Yeah, they would definitely dipped out in

a rock Roca Wear gear.

425

: 00:23:41

Definitely were.

426

: 00:23:45

And I think I remember seeing other rival

people in different gear.

427

: 00:23:50

I thought I saw Phat Farm and I thought I

saw Sean John.

428

: 00:23:54

Maybe it was Phat Farm but I think that

wasn't an accident.

429

: 00:23:57

They actually put some thought into that

instead of the actual plot or character

430

: 00:24:01

development.

431

: 00:24:04

Yeah.

432

: 00:24:06

It's so funny.

433

: 00:24:07

I remember back in the day, like I had, I

used to have like, I used to have State

434

: 00:24:13

Property gear.

435

: 00:24:15

Yeah.

436

: 00:24:17

It was actually good quality stuff too.

437

: 00:24:19

Like it was nice, but you know, it faded

with Roca Wear.

438

: 00:24:23

Roca Wear started fading, State Property

fade.

439

: 00:24:25

It might've faded before Roca Wear but

yeah, I had State Property gear.

440

: 00:24:32

Like State Property, like hoodies and.

441

: 00:24:34

sweat suits and t -shirts.

442

: 00:24:38

The whole time I was, it kept reminding me

of Hot Property from Star Search.

443

: 00:24:42

Remember Star Search?

444

: 00:24:44

With Ed McMahon.

445

: 00:24:45

I remember Star Search, the talent show.

446

: 00:24:49

What was the hot property aspect of it?

447

: 00:24:51

They're one of the acts that would

compete.

448

: 00:24:55

Norm MacDonald has a great bit about Hot

Property.

449

: 00:25:01

I'll put that in this episode description.

450

: 00:25:03

It's so good.

451

: 00:25:03

More old head stuff.

452

: 00:25:07

First, we're talking about Bob Newhart.

453

: 00:25:08

They were talking about Star Search with

Ed McMahon.

454

: 00:25:14

it's more entertaining than this film.

455

: 00:25:16

Yeah.

456

: 00:25:16

Yeah.

457

: 00:25:17

I don't know, remember I was...

458

: 00:25:19

I had Malibu's Most Wanted as my least

favorite.

459

: 00:25:21

This gives it...

460

: 00:25:23

a run for its money.

461

: 00:25:26

As my least favorite.

462

: 00:25:27

Yeah.

463

: 00:25:29

Yeah.

464

: 00:25:30

reverse.

465

: 00:25:32

The backside of Mount Rushmore like has to

be on this.

466

: 00:25:38

Ha ha.

467

: 00:25:39

The WOAT.

468

: 00:25:40

W -O -A -T.

469

: 00:25:43

You

470

: 00:25:45

Alright.

471

: 00:25:49

Well, any other tidbits anybody want to

add?

472

: 00:25:54

I'm shocked that Beanie Sigel's jail time

didn't involve this movie.

473

: 00:25:57

Like, he didn't get put in jail because of

this movie.

474

: 00:26:01

Somehow he skated on this movie.

475

: 00:26:05

That was rough.

476

: 00:26:06

It was tough to watch.

477

: 00:26:07

I watched it in two parts and I was like

wondering.

478

: 00:26:12

I'm glad it was just a little over an hour

and a half, I think.

479

: 00:26:16

Mercifully.

480

: 00:26:17

I'm telling you, this movie should have

lasted five minutes.

481

: 00:26:20

Yeah, let's give the ratings.

482

: 00:26:25

Interested to hear your view BooGie since

you've seen it back and had enjoyed it

483

: 00:26:31

more so when you first saw it.

484

: 00:26:33

But what is your rating for State

Property?

485

: 00:26:35

Bring that funky flick back or leave it in

the vault.

486

: 00:26:42

So despite the fact that I enjoyed

watching this when I was younger, I'm

487

: 00:26:47

going to leave it in the vault.

488

: 00:26:50

Yeah.

489

: 00:26:54

Right.

490

: 00:26:55

Roc fanboy back in the day, but yeah, not

so much now.

491

: 00:26:59

I can't overlook this one.

492

: 00:27:02

Yeah, can't all be winners, I guess.

493

: 00:27:06

That all right.

494

: 00:27:07

I don't think I need to ask, but your

rating on State Property, bring that funky

495

: 00:27:12

flick back or leave it in the vault.

496

: 00:27:14

Leave it in the vault.

497

: 00:27:15

Remember that horse in Ren and Stimpy?

498

: 00:27:17

Who'd always come out and say, No sir, I

didn't like it.

499

: 00:27:20

That was me.

500

: 00:27:24

man.

501

: 00:27:25

told Craig Sager to burn his suit?

502

: 00:27:27

Like the clothes he was wearing right

then?

503

: 00:27:29

Burn it?

504

: 00:27:30

Not to wait?

505

: 00:27:31

Just burn it?

506

: 00:27:33

I think Kevin Garnett should come and tell

them to burn this movie.

507

: 00:27:37

Just don't wait.

508

: 00:27:38

Just burn this movie.

509

: 00:27:42

man.

510

: 00:27:44

I have this.

511

: 00:27:46

Yeah, I have a similar similar feeling.

512

: 00:27:50

Leave this one in the vault.

513

: 00:27:52

State property should be landfill

property.

514

: 00:27:57

Put it in landfill.

515

: 00:28:02

But wait, there's more!

516

: 00:28:05

State Property 2: Electric Boogaloo coming

soon.

517

: 00:28:07

The fact that this got a sequel is beyond

me.

518

: 00:28:13

Again, just because you could doesn't mean

you should Maybe the stunt double that's

519

: 00:28:20

completely wrong and like the mannequin

falling down the stairs is in State

520

: 00:28:23

Property 2.

521

: 00:28:24

I look forward to that I'm hoping for that

522

: 00:28:28

We ran random cameos from stunt guys.

523

: 00:28:31

Hahaha.

524

: 00:28:32

I would like Boogaloo Shrimp to show up in

this movie.

525

: 00:28:37

Ricardo Montalban, maybe he could show up

in this movie.

526

: 00:28:40

State Property 2: The Wrath of Khan.

527

: 00:28:42

Heheheheh

528

: 00:28:43

my god.

529

: 00:28:46

Instead of putting those little things

that he put in the ears, he just put them

530

: 00:28:48

in my eyes.

531

: 00:28:50

Get over with.

532

: 00:28:54

Hmm.

533

: 00:28:56

man.

534

: 00:28:57

What's worse than straight to video?

535

: 00:29:00

Straight to the recycle bin?

536

: 00:29:03

Yeah.

537

: 00:29:08

Oof.

538

: 00:29:12

There's so much better content out there.

539

: 00:29:14

That's a lot of times my justification for

leaving in the vault.

540

: 00:29:18

There's so much better content out there.

541

: 00:29:20

Just find other.

542

: 00:29:22

Yeah, life's too short to spend it

watching this movie.

543

: 00:29:27

This is why we do this.

544

: 00:29:29

This is like a public service.

545

: 00:29:30

We watched this movie, so you didn't have

to, dear listener.

546

: 00:29:35

Yeah.

547

: 00:29:37

Uhhh...

548

: 00:29:39

You still have the DVD, Boogie?

549

: 00:29:42

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I do because I had a

whole, like, I don't know, to this day I

550

: 00:29:48

still don't know why, but I like watching

crime movies.

551

: 00:29:52

So I'm pretty sure I still have it in my

storage unit with the rest of my crime

552

: 00:29:57

movies.

553

: 00:29:58

Yeah, I mean there's a lot of crimes in

this movie.

554

: 00:30:01

This movie itself is probably a crime, but

again, Beanie didn't do any jail time for

555

: 00:30:05

it.

556

: 00:30:06

Yeah, I had like this, New Jack City, King

of New York, Carlitos Way, Scarface, all

557

: 00:30:15

those movies.

558

: 00:30:17

I had a whole bunch.

559

: 00:30:17

I have the full game.

560

: 00:30:20

And then State Property.

561

: 00:30:21

Yeah, with the classics.

562

: 00:30:24

It's a masterpiece.

563

: 00:30:31

You needed something to put your drink on.

564

: 00:30:37

man.

565

: 00:30:38

Hehehehe.

566

: 00:30:40

Yeah, if you ever get a chance to see the

second one, it's got more holes in it than

567

: 00:30:46

this one.

568

: 00:30:49

You should just watch it to giggle.

569

: 00:30:53

We should.

570

: 00:30:54

How many times can we can we can we rank

on this movie?

571

: 00:30:58

The second one has a lot of cameos in this

they got a bigger budget this movie didn't

572

: 00:31:04

do too bad though because At the time like

this Roc was at the top of their game So

573

: 00:31:10

people went to see it.

574

: 00:31:12

We were watching it.

575

: 00:31:13

He will got watched it just because of who

was in it You know

576

: 00:31:17

that totally.

577

: 00:31:18

I mean...

578

: 00:31:19

You know, these guys are on tour.

579

: 00:31:21

They got videos everywhere.

580

: 00:31:23

They're on all the radio stations and in

the clubs.

581

: 00:31:26

And then they put out a movie.

582

: 00:31:27

That's how I got caught.

583

: 00:31:31

I was a fan boy.

584

: 00:31:32

Mm -hmm.

585

: 00:31:33

your $12 like it was back in the day?

586

: 00:31:36

Sure.

587

: 00:31:36

Mindless is entertainment for 90 minutes.

588

: 00:31:38

Emphasis on mindless.

589

: 00:31:42

when you have the level of clout and Jay-Z

and it's his conglomerate, like he could

590

: 00:31:49

take a dump, wrap it in foil and somebody

would buy it.

591

: 00:31:53

That's kind of what this is.

592

: 00:31:57

man.

593

: 00:31:57

Pretty much.

594

: 00:32:00

Yeah, it was not a cinematic triumph.

595

: 00:32:06

and not worth most people's time.

596

: 00:32:11

I'm opposed to watching the sequel.

597

: 00:32:13

I don't know.

598

: 00:32:13

It's torturous.

599

: 00:32:18

man, how low can you go?

600

: 00:32:20

more likely stretch the meaning of hip-hop

movie to include the likes of like Pee

601

: 00:32:30

Wee's Big Adventure or something.

602

: 00:32:34

There's gotta be some link to hip-hop.

603

: 00:32:36

Let's watch that.

604

: 00:32:37

a song called The Pee-Wee Herman.

605

: 00:32:39

Yeah, see, there we go.

606

: 00:32:40

a Pee Wee Herman.

607

: 00:32:40

There we go.

608

: 00:32:41

Right.

609

: 00:32:41

Do the Pee Wee Herman.

610

: 00:32:42

Yeah, exactly.

611

: 00:32:44

Yeah.

612

: 00:32:46

That's a tie in, right?

613

: 00:32:49

Not that that version was in the film, but

yeah, I'm just using as example.

614

: 00:32:53

Like.

615

: 00:32:56

Yeah, no, I mean, maybe we won't, but boy,

boy, this was, this was something.

616

: 00:33:06

Yeah.

617

: 00:33:10

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618

: 00:33:15

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619

: 00:33:18

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620

: 00:33:21

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621

: 00:33:22

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622

: 00:33:24

Thanks for tuning in.

623

: 00:33:26

And remember, don't hate, concentrate.

624

: 00:33:33

focus on higher quality film.

625

: 00:33:38

past this movie.

626

: 00:33:40

yeah.

627

: 00:33:41

Focus on something other than what we just

talked about.

628

: 00:33:44

That's right.

629

: 00:33:48

Sad trumpet.

630

: 00:33:51

totally Womp Womp.

631

: 00:33:54

man, God bless the Roc.

632

: 00:33:59

He's a business man.

633

: 00:34:02

man.

634

: 00:34:04

I wonder if Jay-Z has any regrets about

the film.

635

: 00:34:07

I mean, yeah.

636

: 00:34:10

I mean, I guess people gotta start

somewhere.

637

: 00:34:12

I mean, who knew by then, who knew then he

was gonna be a billionaire?

638

: 00:34:18

from a have not to a have got.

639

: 00:34:21

I kinda like that.

640

: 00:34:22

That was kinda clever, like, that should

have been someone's lyric, right?

641

: 00:34:27

One of the, actually, he did have a line

in a movie that I did hear in one of his

642

: 00:34:35

lyrics.

643

: 00:34:36

He said, the streets is not only watching,

but they're talking now.

644

: 00:34:39

That's in...

645

: 00:34:43

It's in a Roc La Familia album.

646

: 00:34:46

But I can't remember which song it is

though.

647

: 00:34:48

But Beanie Sigel will come on at the end

and he says that he starts off with that.

648

: 00:34:52

I'm like, hey, I know that line.

649

: 00:34:54

It was easy for him because he already did

it.

650

: 00:34:59

Yeah, when you're stage name is Beanie

Sigel and then they make a movie and they

651

: 00:35:05

call you Beans in the movie, that tells

you how much work they put into this.

652

: 00:35:09

Hahaha.

653

: 00:35:11

I mean, let's just call them Beans.

654

: 00:35:15

Let's show some range here.

655

: 00:35:18

beans.

656

: 00:35:19

Woof.

657

: 00:35:24

And I said it was based on, this was based

on true events.

658

: 00:35:28

So then I went back and I was looking at

like Beanie Sigel's history.

659

: 00:35:31

I was like, I hope this wasn't his full

story.

660

: 00:35:33

It's not, I don't know.

661

: 00:35:35

Jones and the Junior Black Mafia.

662

: 00:35:39

Yeah, that's about it.

663

: 00:35:42

I can't imagine that that story had to be

much better than this one.