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30th Oct 2024

Boyz n the Hood (rebroadcast)

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Boyz n the Hood (rebroadcast)

In time for our screening of Boyz n the Hood in 4K at SteelStacks in Bethlehem on November 13th, here is a rebroadcast of our original episode on Boyz n the Hood. You don't want to miss this screening, as we'll have a throwback set by DJ ARM 18 at 6:45, and then a really terrific panel discussion about the film featuring Ali Akarcesme, a filmmaker and professor from Kutztown University, Andrew McIntosh, a sociology professor from Northampton Community College (whom you already know as DJ ARM 18), Vernard James, a filmmaker and co-curator of the Black Film: Then & Now series at SteelStacks and Nandini Sikand, a filmmaker, professor and artist from Lafayette College. Get your tickets at steelstacks.org.

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Yo! Bring it!

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C’mon!

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Welcome to hip hop movie club where three

old heads put their old heads together.

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The vibe on some of the most memorable

or forgettable

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hip hop themed movies of all time.

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And here's Hmsi with your HMCs Boogie.

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JB. Oh yeah, and Deano, right.

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Bring it.

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Come on.

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Season four, episode one Boyz n the hood.

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Written and directed

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by John Singleton

and produced by Steve Michaelides.

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Released in 1991 and featuring Ice

Cube Cuba Gooding Jr.

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Morris

Chestnut and Laurence Fishburne. Oh.

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Well, answer the question.

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Which of the boys can survive

and which can thrive

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in the main streets of South Central LA?

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Right.

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One on one.

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Look what I know.

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Boys in the hood is a coming of age drama

which sees a young boy, Trey,

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sent to live with his father.

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Furious styles in the rough and tumble

south central LA neighborhood of Crenshaw.

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Both series instills proper

values and respect in Trey.

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His friends Doughboy and Ricky

don't have the same kind of support system

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and are drawn into the drug

and gang culture with tragic results.

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Boogie, what are your

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initial thoughts of boys in the hood?

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Boys in the hood

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is the quintessential South Central film.

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It's the first film from John Singleton,

first major film film,

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and the first of the South Central quote

unquote trilogy films.

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I think the super poignant and it touches

on, a lot of a lot of topics.

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You have street violence,

you know, drug dealing, gang culture.

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There's police brutality.

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It touches on gentrification of the

of the hood as well

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as on misogyny

and single parent households,

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absentee father and the repercussions

that can occur, when that takes place.

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Even though I know

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the ending of the movie, it's it's

always one of those movies that whenever

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I see it on, I have to stop and pause

what I'm doing.

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And I pay attention to it because

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it tells the story of of what can happen

if you're not careful.

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And also, you know, even though

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you have a hopeful situation

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in terms of the of the character Ricky,

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and his ability to play football,

in potentially get out

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chance occurrences of being

in the wrong place at the wrong time can

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sometimes have some really ugly results

and consequences.

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But yeah, I definitely enjoyed this movie.

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This is one of those films that

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I highly recommend for people to watch

if they want to get an insight

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on on the street

culture of Los Angeles in South Central.

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And it's sad because a lot of these

occurrences in the movie still occur.

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I mean, we do it

just fairly recently hip hop artist

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PNB Rock,

you know, murdered in Los Angeles.

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And it's very sad to see situations

like that occur.

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And also we have the issues

of prudence, brutality that still occur.

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So I think John Singleton was

was ahead of his time.

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As far as bringing these stories

to the forefront

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so that not only can the world

see what's going on,

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but also the people that live in Hollywood

that are oblivious to the situations

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that are going on,

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to kind of

look over their shoulder to say, oh,

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wow, this is what's going on in our own

backyard, and pay attention to it.

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It does. Right.

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What are your thoughts initially?

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I had never seen this before

in one of those movies,

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and it was equal, or

maybe even better than Do the Right Thing.

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The characters were very human.

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It was multi-dimensional, and the acting

actually met the level of the writing.

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The writing.

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These characters were written so well,

and they they really brought

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great acting to it.

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And a lot of them were their first movie

roles.

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It's like,

amazing that you got these performances

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out of these, the actors,

and the whole thing was just,

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you know, they turned it the stars, right?

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They so many people,

like we've seen so many other movies

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now in this podcast too.

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They got their start here. It's like, wow.

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Yeah,

a lot of them like had been working, but

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they really became more prominent

thanks to this movie. And,

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this might be

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my favorite one that we've seen so far.

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Yeah, this was incredible.

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I had seen it once or twice,

but years ago, shortly

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after it came out and to rewatch it,

I was just enthralled by it.

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It holds up.

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I mean, this could be a top

20 film of all time, perhaps.

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I'm just astounded by how young John

Singleton was when he made this film.

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He was 24 years old.

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Think about what we were doing at age 24.

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I think it's important.

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You know.

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Youngest director

ever to be nominated by an Oscar.

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So kudos to the late,

great John Singleton.

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Yeah, actually you you did a comparison

with Do the Right Thing.

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I was reading up

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two years after spike Lee was passed over

for nomination for Do the Right Thing.

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He didn't get it.

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Singleton

became the first African-American

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to earn a Best Director

nomination for, Boyz n the hood.

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The character development,

the cinematography was all on point,

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and it's a teaching moment,

and it's poignant, like you said.

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So this one started out

with the statistic of one out of every 22

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black Americans will be murdered,

which is just jaw dropping,

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and most will be at the hands

of another black person.

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So then you're talking about,

you know, black on black crime,

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like you said, done, right.

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Ice cube hadn't done any acting right

for John Singleton to reach out to him.

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So John Singleton,

I really want the USC for film school,

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which is a cop program,

and for him to reach out to Ice Cube,

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who was really knee

deep into the success of N.W.A.

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And to bring him into this

role was just remarkable.

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And he you nailed it.

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When I, was thinking about

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the characters and how this movie was,

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it was Ice Cube that you really saw

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how he became a Hollywood star

because he has the acting chops

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to to do a role like this

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that wasn't just one dimensional,

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you know, he would he could have been

just portrayed as a thug,

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but there was a dimension

to his, his character.

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And, you know, he actually did.

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I mean, he and his brother would fight,

but he actually did love his brother

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and wanted to protect him.

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And he had levels to him.

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So, and that made him think like

that was his first movie.

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Wow, what a talent.

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Yeah.

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He definitely knocked it out of the park.

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I mean, toe to toe

with any seasoned vet in the film.

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His portrayal of Doughboy

in this movie is top notch.

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And like you said,

it was definitely layers.

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Like, he was definitely not just a street

like he was.

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He was compassionate.

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He was loyal, compassionate.

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He was strong, strong willed as well.

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And he was very realistic and very he was

he wasn't a good person,

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but you kind of want to root for him

anyway,

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because you can still see

those good qualities in him.

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And he's a guy I, you know, like,

you know what?

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He's he's he's not good.

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But there's something about him

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that, you know, he can do better

if he just applied himself.

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And you want to root for him to do

better is.

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You see, unfortunately,

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at the end of the movie, he definitely,

you know, he didn't make it,

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you know, he was he was also,

you know, he was murdered as well.

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Came another statistic, unfortunately.

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And that's that's the sad thing.

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And it's like you see these guys

and you know that there's something

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more to them, but you're so wrapped up

that, you know, it takes them under.

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The character of Doughboy.

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That's very interesting.

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He was the street smart one between him

and his brother Kenny.

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He was protective of them.

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In fact, when they were walking down

by the tracks and they came upon

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the other group of,

I guess, almost like a gang,

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and they stole his football

and they stole Kenny's football.

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Doughboy

was the one that stood up for him.

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I'm Ricky, I'm sorry.

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Ricky.

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Ricky's football. Yep.

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So he fought to get the football back.

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He wasn't

afraid to back down from anybody.

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And I think what what was really driving

some of Doughboy was motive.

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Was Ricky being the one

that had the aspirations before a player

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was definitely favored by their mother,

and he internalized that.

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You can see that when they would fight,

she would slap

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him, slap doughboy like,

get your hands off him and everything.

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In fact, you fast forward,

you know, at the end when

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when Ricky was shot and killed,

her initial thought was

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that Doughboy had done it,

and she's blaming him.

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And punching him,

and he internalized all that.

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And I think that kind of made him

the way he was.

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Yeah, I definitely agree.

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You said you could definitely see him

crying out

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for attention

that wasn't being bestowed to him.

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Yeah, it was definitely favoritism

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in that in those situations

between the wearing Ricky and.

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Yeah, yeah, I think if he was getting

that attention from the mother as well,

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you might have a different outcome.

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Yeah.

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Like I said, the synopsis is like daily

they had a single parent

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issues.

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I mean Trey did also.

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So Trey was, you know, well

not single parent but separated, right.

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And then furious, played by Laurence

Fishburne.

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I mean, what an amazing character Laurence

Fishburne was.

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I thought he should have been nominated

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for, supporting actor,

but he was passed over as well.

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What? What a great father figure.

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You know,

the rough and tumble neighborhood.

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But the first night that Trey goes to

to live with him,

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there's a break in in the house

the way that Singleton had

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that build up with the dripping faucet

and the intensity of it and the shooting.

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And then that leads to the tension

with the the cop that that came.

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There was a black cop who took forever

to arrive, and then he stays.

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He states, it's one less

and we're on the street.

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If you would have gotten him.

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And it's like, well, what's going on here?

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Like it was it

kind of brought a lot of drama, for sure.

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I read that Singleton shot this in order,

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and I also had that reaction

about the dripping faucet.

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The tension building was really great

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to read that.

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Oh yeah.

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This was like

when he was still figuring out things

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and by the end like, wow,

this was your first movie.

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Yeah.

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I was listening, to some other podcast

about and doing some research.

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It's like he was fresh out of film school,

so like, I guess he was using these

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techniques and he used him to to a tee,

and it was masterful.

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Masterful as the word.

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Yeah, yeah. So, so dramatic.

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And back to, furious Laurence Fishburne.

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He taught Trey the life lessons,

and he kept them and straight and narrow

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as much as he could.

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You see, he was the one that was working

at the mall and trying to do,

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you know, trying to live a normal life.

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The famous scene where they're fishing

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and he's teaching him,

you know, how to be a man

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and the rights and wrongs

and everything like that.

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It was impressive.

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Yeah.

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Ice cube scenes,

though, boy scenes and periods of style

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scenes, those were really gripping, like

I was glued.

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And anytime they were on the screen like,

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oh, this is something to pay attention to.

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Yeah, yeah, he just stole the scenes

and there was a lot of gems that he was,

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he would drop and things that, you know,

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people are starting to talk about now,

or he was talking about it back then.

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And in that movie, just a

just a good overall solid character,

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well-respected in the neighborhood.

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And, you know,

it was good to see a positive role model

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by everything going on.

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Usually, you know, sometimes the father

is portrayed in a negative way or not

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portrayed at all, non-existent in the case

of, you know, Doughboy and Ricky.

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So it was good that there was a counter

balance to show, hey,

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you know,

despite the parents being separated,

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he's still a positive,

you know, influence in his life.

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And there to help him become a man.

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I think even a point to the mother

portrayed by Angela Bassett, that,

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you know, she wanted him,

you know, wanted trade to to live with him

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because she's like, you know,

I bought him this far, but, you know,

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he needs his father

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to kind of buckle him down a little bit

and show him how to become a man.

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I can, I can help, but you're good, man.

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He needs a man in his life.

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And I understand that

we're not together, but,

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I want you to take care of him

from this point, just to make sure

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he gets that other side of the coin

upbringing as well.

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Yeah.

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You mentioned the term gentrification

earlier and that.

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Wow. I mean,

that becomes so much more popular.

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This is back. This film was from like 91.

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There's a scene where furious is

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speaking in front of the empty

lot with the in front of the billboard,

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and this is the first time

I pretty much heard that word.

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And he explains it in such a clear way

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to, train Ricky and a lot of the folks

in the neighborhood,

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one of them,

including Grady from Sanford and Son.

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Yeah, one of this.

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Yeah, one of the neighborhood guys.

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And he explains this

like it's called gentrification.

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And I have a quote here.

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It's like, it's

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what happens when the property

value of a certain area is brought down.

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He's like, you're listening.

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You bring the property value down,

they can buy the land a lower price.

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They move all the people out, raise the

property value and sell it at a profit.

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Okay.

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So now what we need to do

is keep everything in our neighborhood.

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Everything black,

black, owned with black money,

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just like the Jews, the Italians,

the Mexicans and the Koreans.

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And then he's talking about, I think

it was maybe it was actually the old man.

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I think Grady talking about,

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he's like, ain't nobody from outside

bringing down the property values,

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these folks shooting each other

and selling the crack. Right.

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So you saying, oh, wait a second,

now we're all doing to ourselves.

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And then furious was like, well,

how do you think the crack rockets

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in this country?

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We don't own any planes.

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We don't ownerships.

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We're not the people flying

and floating it all in here.

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Why is there a gun shop

on almost every corner in this community?

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So really gets everybody

thinking it's very provocative,

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but it's poignant where it's like, wow,

they really want it.

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It's kind of like

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the odds are so stacked against us

is all the liquor stores on the corner.

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There's the gun shops.

They want us to kill each other.

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It's pretty much what he's saying.

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We have to overcome

that, you know, we're able.

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So that was

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really a great speech he had there.

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Absolutely.

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That was one of my favorite scenes

of the movie.

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Yeah.

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Anytime you can put Whitman, Mayo

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and I think.

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Grady.

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But it's so funny.

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We've had so many.

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We don't want to page cameos.

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It's about time we got somebody else

from San Francisco and gravy.

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We haven't seen on that there in a while.

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Let's see.

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Grady.

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There's one more thing about so Fury

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style is played by Laurence Fishburne,

who was like a mortgage broker.

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And you see the scene when he, he's,

talking to Trey when they're fishing.

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And he was talking about his time

in the military army.

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And some people say that this is the same

character, possibly from Apocalypse Now.

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Laurence Fishburne is character.

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So if you go back

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and look at that, this this could be

the evolution of his character,

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which was interesting.

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I was like these little

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interim inter movie kind of connections

that, yeah, maybe

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they're. Always kind of. Cool.

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Yeah.

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This it's possible

if you put two and two together

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and we just go back

to the cinematography.

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I believe there was like almost John

Singleton was paying homage to Stand By Me

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with the train track scene,

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finding the body, there was a kind of a

double double thing there,

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although this was a much shorter walk

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than the boys in Stand By Me

and Finding the Body.

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But also,

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like you said, when Doughboy vanishes,

that's like, I think River Phoenix.

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It the way that they make him vanish

at the end.

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Yeah, I read that too. Like it was. Yeah.

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To use. That same.

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Yeah. And things that

he can. It was a hat tip to,

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to stand by me.

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I don't think there was a false note

in this movie at all.

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And I think maybe it's recency bias,

but I feel like Do

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the Right Thing had a few scenes

that didn't have to be in the movie.

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And so it wasn't like completely ironclad.

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And I think this movie, like

there was no fat in this movie.

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It was so powerful

and consistent through the entire movie.

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Yeah.

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And I heard a comparison

of so John Singleton and Spike Lee.

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They rose to prominence

around the same time.

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So they're always kind of compared

to each other.

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And the comparison I heard was that spike

Lee, as we mentioned when we talked

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about the right thing, left some things

open ended and wanted to spark debate.

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And he was created that whereas John

Singleton was more or less,

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I want to take you into this world

and tell you the story of how it is.

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This is almost like if NWA was on film,

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and that's why Ice Cube was such a natural

to play this role.

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It's like, this is how it is essential.

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This is the true story.

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Here's how the characters evolve.

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And this is the tragic events, right?

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That whereas spike

Lee was more kind of open ended.

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It definitely complementary.

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Yeah. They fit together for sure.

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Yeah.

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I think it's fun to think of Cowboy Curtis

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misses that.

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And then he goes in Cowboy Curtis

the furious styles that wow.

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And I read that, John Singleton worked at

pee wee's Playhouse as a production

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assistant and security guard,

and that's how he met Laurence Fishburne.

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So you never know

these connections are wild.

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Well, yeah.

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I was even I was so impressed

by the child actors in the beginning,

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when it was the small train

teaching the class.

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About, yeah. Africa.

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And then he starts to fight and I'm like,

wow, these, these kids are just so great.

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Yeah.

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The kid that played Doughboy at age

ten and.

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Yeah, little Trey.

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Yeah. It was very good.

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I was reading and I saw that, backtrack

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to that ice cube real quick

in his cast of a joke for Doughboy

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that he was John Singleton's

first choice to play Doughboy,

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but he just kept approaching Ice Cube

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after concert 2 or 3 performances.

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If, you know, Ice Cube,

of course, was reluctant.

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So, like, you know, I'm not an actor,

but John Singleton,

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following encouraged him to audition

to take a screen test.

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He performed just as well as John

Singleton knew that he would

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and you know, was cast as Doughboy.

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They developed the friendship,

and John Singleton

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actually was

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was the one who started

encouraging Ice Cube to write screenplays

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based off of his writing of his lyrics,

which resulted in a this,

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which was in a Friday.

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How about that?

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That's amazing.

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Yeah. Wow.

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This was the source material

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for all these great things

that happened afterwards, like Friday and

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the rest of his trilogy and all that.

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Wow. Yeah, yeah.

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With the gang kind of bumps.

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Ricky

and he confronts Ferris from the gang,

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and the dope boy is the one who stands

up, says, is there a problem here?

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The machine guns kind of blast out.

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Trey and Ricky kind of get pulled over to.

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And then.

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And then there's that

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black cop threatening them

with the gun to the throw,

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and you see the dramatic breakdown

of Trey, like Chase.

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Chase so conflicted.

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He's trying to live this straight,

narrow life.

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But is all this pressure on him.

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And he starts

crying in front of his girlfriend Brandi.

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And that was a really powerful scene, too.

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And then you see furious and,

ex-wife Reba

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talking about his future and him moving in

with Brandi and things like that.

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Ricky sees the Army commercial on TV

and is intrigued by it.

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And then, you know, there's the fight

between Ricky and Doughboy.

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There's so much that that kind of happens.

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And Trey convinces

Ricky, like, don't go into the military

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because his father was like, you know,

it's not for us and everything like that.

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So, so much to this character development

and what these kids are going through.

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It's it's it's well.

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I agree the.

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Yeah,

they say they had to grow up really young.

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Yeah.

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Little like full grown adult situations

as kids get out of high school.

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Yeah, yeah.

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That scene when Trey breaks down

in front of Brandi at her house,

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yeah, he was holding it together so well

and came out

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and yeah, you kind of feel that because

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you get

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threatened

like that and you feel that power dynamic,

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but the the cop, the

the self-loathing cop, right?

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Yeah.

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Totally relate to how he reacted to that

and how he to hold himself together

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until they found a place

where he could let it out.

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Well, yeah.

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And that was

there was a whole lot of tension

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between folks in the neighborhood

and the police

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at that time as well, and a lot of it,

you know, making no excuse for.

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But a lot of

it was based off the violence of the area.

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The police officers weren't sure who pull

the trigger to act, and who wouldn't.

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So they walk into every situation

and they, they were just over overzealous

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with their handling of situations

that could have been violated.

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Pretty simply.

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No simple questions here and there.

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And, you know,

everyone could have been on their way,

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but they were just really,

really nasty and rude

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and they developed such a bad reputation.

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It was a rite of passage.

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All right.

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Okay.

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At what point are you going to come in

contact with the cops and, you know,

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get roughed up?

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You know, it's going to happen.

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At what point is it

going to happen to you?

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You know it's going to happen.

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That was trace, I guess, real.

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That might have been his first time having

that that situation like that occur.

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And once it finally happens to you,

you don't know what to do because

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at any point,

you know, he could have been dead.

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All it takes

is a misjudgment from that police officer

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I thought he was going to do

or thought he was going to do this or,

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you know, whatever.

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And that overreacted and killed him.

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So, yeah.

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And you said, you said,

there's a power dynamic

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where, you know,

you're powerless in that situation

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when he was probably out

of that situation, you know,

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we had a mount C Helens type moment

where you just erupted with emotion.

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I can definitely relate

to that situation.

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I mean, I've never been to the extent

of what he dealt with,

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but yeah, when you're in,

you don't know what's going to happen.

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And when you know you're finally out

of the situation, you break down.

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I've broken down before,

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not to that extent, but I've had moments

where I've been kind of police officers,

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and after they were going my face,

I just sat in the car and cried.

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Or I got home and parked my car and

just sat there and cried like, Thank God

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they didn't go in a different direction.

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And when it did, you know, it was just a

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interaction.

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I got home.

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So every time I see that scene,

it touches me.

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Yeah, and police brutality.

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You think of the timing of this movie.

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If you look back at the

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one of the most visible incidents back

then, Rodney King

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happened in March of 1991.

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This movie was released in July of 1991.

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So this was definitely at the peak of

when this came to light.

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Obviously it still happens.

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We've seen so many instances,

but this is really on everybody's mind.

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And you said,

I can see how it could be so emotional.

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The police are supposed to be

the ones that serving and protecting,

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and someone you can confided

in, someone that would help you.

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And then when you a threatened

and pulled over racially profiled

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with a gun to your head

where you think you might die

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and someone of your own race,

I mean, I can

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I can see why

it all bubbled to the surface.

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Trey.

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So if you want to jump to the final scene,

romantic scene at the end

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where they hear the gang pull up

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:

and Ricky and Trey are together

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and they hear the car

and Ricky says, you know, split up.

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:

And we always ask us,

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you know, like, like you said this,

this kind of movie is pretty airtight.

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But the one thing I do question is like,

Ricky has to stop to pee.

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He also has to do his lottery scratch

off tickets.

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And I'm like, oh man.

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But yeah,

that was like poor timing on his part.

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So bad.

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Like, yeah,

someone really react like that.

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Yeah.

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:

I'm like now Ricky had the running back

skills like.

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And I'm wondering

why he actually thought the split up.

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:

I was wondering, maybe he thought

that Trey would slow him down.

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:

I'm not sure.

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:

So there's a lot of question

about that final scene,

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:

but but obviously they had to get Ricky

was isolated and train

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:

in another direction unfortunately.

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And then, you know, Ricky's

gunned down the dramatics

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:

like slo mo scene

where Trey shouting out Ricky's name.

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Yeah.

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:

And to further add drama, it's

not like everything ends there.

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They actually

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:

bring the body home,

all bloodied and shot,

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put him on the couch, and then you see

Ricky and Doe Boy's mother

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:

losing her mind, obviously.

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:

But then again, like I said, blaming

Doughboy, hitting him and blaming and

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:

it all culminates in that Trey then

goes home and, you know, gets his gun.

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:

And then, furious, demands

the gun and the huge emotional hug.

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And then there's the, retribution.

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:

Where Doughboy, Dukie and Monster

go find the gang that killed Ricky.

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:

Trey actually asked to be dropped off

before they got to them.

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:

And they do end up,

you know, gunning down the,

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:

the gang members that had killed Ricky.

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:

Yeah, yeah, it got real.

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It got real.

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:

A-Train came to the conclusion

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:

that he's definitely not cut out for that,

which was actually good

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:

that he realized

instead of potentially ruining his life

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:

in that situation,

had it going in a different kind of way.

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:

And which was actually good, is

that when he asked to get out of the car,

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:

there was no pressure

for him to make a mistake.

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:

They knew that he shouldn't

have been there, so they just let him go.

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:

Trey again, his future would have

been jeopardized as well. And

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:

I do like the kind of epilog where they do

show you that.

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:

Trey then does

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:

go on to Morehouse College

and his girlfriend Brandi goes to Spelman.

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:

So they they're supposed to be both local

and they can continue

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:

with their relationship.

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:

Unfortunately, like they said, Doughboy

was killed a couple of weeks later

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:

by the other members of the gang.

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:

I'm sure.

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:

One other thing

I didn't mention was interesting.

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:

So Ricky

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:

being recruited by USC? Yeah.

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:

And the recruiter comes to the home

and outside the front porch.

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:

There's a lot of chaos,

a lot of cursing and stuff like that.

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:

And the recruiter was kind

of, like, unfazed by it.

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:

And what did it kind of turn them off,

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:

though, was Ricky Ricky's child runs out.

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:

So Ricky has a child.

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:

They fast forward,

he closes his laptop or whatever.

564

:

But what makes it even more tragic

565

:

is that obviously you know,

he had the son and he was gunned down.

566

:

And it does reveal at the end

that he did pass the I think it was sad

567

:

as he had just just met the requirement

by like ten points.

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:

So he would have received a scholarship

569

:

and gotten out so many.

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:

So many occurrences of things

like that happening.

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:

What is the potential for

someone when they get out and you don't

572

:

because of situations like this?

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:

I mean, we saw some of the similar

almost occur in about the rim.

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:

Yeah,

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:

we saw a situation like that almost occur

when he was going to get a scholarship.

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:

He was could have been gunned down

on the basketball court.

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:

Yeah.

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:

Georgetown in that case. Yeah. Yeah.

579

:

It's very believable. Realistic.

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:

Like you said, these incidents happen.

Some gone down all the time.

581

:

A lot of these athletes

that come from the inner city,

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:

and they they live in surrounded

by the gang violence.

583

:

This is lifestyle.

And that's their only ticket out.

584

:

That is really the only ticket

is to get that scholarship.

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:

And, sometimes tragic results occur.

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:

So here's a cautionary tale

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:

and just just well done by a singleton

here.

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:

Absolutely. Thumbs up.

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Right. To.

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I mean, you guys.

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Enjoy the music.

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:

I mean, the soundtrack. Great.

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:

I didn't own it,

but it's a great soundtrack.

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:

Yeah. Is the.

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:

Yeah, I definitely love this soundtrack.

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:

It's a good one.

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:

Really good.

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:

Feature. Ice Cube obviously.

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:

Two. Sure.

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Compton's most wanted.

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:

Tony. Tony. Tony yo yo.

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:

I was in it. And in the movie.

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Yes, yes.

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:

Two Live Crew even

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main source Shamrock.

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One of my favorites

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Quincy Jones.

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So Kimbro.

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:

Maloney love is in this.

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:

Too. Yeah

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:

great soundtrack.

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:

So could could this movie be made today.

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:

Yeah absolutely I mean.

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:

I think so.

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:

Yeah. Absolutely.

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:

Yeah.

617

:

The subject matter is still relevant

much like it was do the Right thing.

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:

Yeah.

619

:

And I've said this before on this podcast,

but if you're interested in

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:

see how current

technology would impact the story,

621

:

what the cell phones do for

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:

us in this, in this,

I don't think it really matter that much.

623

:

There was our old cordless phones

and, and brandy

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:

had that Apple two C computer, like,

I had an Apple two C computer.

625

:

I was like, hey, I got that computer and.

626

:

I have that meme of,

627

:

Leonardo DiCaprio, or,

like, pointing at the TV.

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:

Yeah,

I don't know, it could be made today,

629

:

but boy, could anyone top the original.

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:

I don't know, that would be really hard.

631

:

Yeah,

it'd be really hard to top the original.

632

:

I don't want to see this rebooted at all.

633

:

This is so perfect.

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:

Yeah. You

635

:

make another movie based on it because

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:

something else.

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:

I gotta admit, I did

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:

listen to the rewatchable podcast on this,

which is done by The Ringer.

639

:

They talked for quite a while

on a lot of movies,

640

:

and they were saying, well,

641

:

if someone had this concept today,

it would be like a Netflix series,

642

:

like a ten part,

because there could be a lot of

643

:

the back story

and I could see something like that.

644

:

Maybe I agree. Yeah.

645

:

And there's really rich like,

these characters

646

:

all had rich backstories to them,

and they could have had a whole series on

647

:

various styles, right? Yeah,

648

:

right.

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:

Yeah. You could do a prequel.

650

:

Like how did Fury Styles grew up?

651

:

What was his upbringing like?

652

:

And then show him, you know, what were

the challenges he faced in the military

653

:

and what caused him to join

and then to leave. And.

654

:

There's a lot to it.

655

:

It could be like, got them movie

game or watched the series, got them

656

:

and they show the backstory

of Commissioner Gordon.

657

:

Really well done.

658

:

I feel like it'd be like that.

659

:

Yeah.

660

:

He almost regret not seeing more of,

Ricky's football highlights

661

:

because he that one piece of film,

he was explosive.

662

:

He, like, predated, Reggie Bush.

663

:

He was the original Reggie Bush.

664

:

You must.

665

:

Later day OJ Simpson.

666

:

Right. Right to us.

667

:

Marcus Allen. Yeah.

668

:

I think the more I think.

669

:

They turned out a lot of stud

running backs or Ricky could, you know,

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:

could have been one of them.

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:

Right.

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:

They 3333.

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:

Yeah.

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:

So while we do our final rating,

this is kind of a no brainer.

675

:

But let's go around the room here

and you bring that funky flick back.

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:

Bring that something.

677

:

Flick back or leave it in the vault.

678

:

Bring that funky flick back.

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:

It's a classic move.

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:

It's done. All right.

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:

Bring this funky flick back.

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:

Outstanding.

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:

Yes! Bring this funky flick back.

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:

Amazing work.

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:

Bring it.

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:

Come on.

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Hip Hop Movie Club is produced

by your HMCs, JB Boogie and Dino.

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Right? The music by Boogie.

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Bring it! C’mon!

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Special thanks,

as always to Susan, to Wanda and Alice.

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C’mon!

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On the next episode of the Hip Hop

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Come on.

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Shout out to your listeners.

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Thanks for tuning in.

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Come on.

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And remember. Don't hate.

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Anticipate.

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Shout out the brain

freeze trivia in the Lehigh Valley.

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Check out the Instagram brain.

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Underscore. Freeze.

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Underscore.

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