Episode 61

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Published on:

4th Apr 2024

Krush Groovin', Body Movin': Krush Groove screening/live talkback at SteelStacks

Our live recording after the Krush Groove screening at SteelStacks in Bethlehem PA. Five facts plus trivia questions about the 1985 classic starring Run-DMC, Blair Underwood and a cast of thousands.

Topics discussed:

👑 The Brothers Simmons: Russell and Joseph a.k.a. "Run"

🎞️ The real life inspiration for the Krush Groove story: Def Jam Recordings

🎥 Director Michael Schultz and his long career

🎭 Rising hip hop stars in the film

💿 The Krush Groove soundtrack: full of great hip hop music

Also check out:

Our original episode on Krush Groove

Our original episode on Disorderlies

Save the date: August 16 we are back at SteelStacks with a House Party screening and talkback!

Credits

Many thanks to DJ ARM 18 and ArtsQuest for helping us put this screening and live talkback together! Check out 50 Years Down the Line and ArtsQuest.

Hip Hop Movie Club is produced by your HHMCs JB, BooGie, and DynoWright. Theme music by BooGie. Follow @hiphopmovieclub on Instagram!

Join us for "A Conversation with Chuck D" hosted by DJ ARM 18 on Tue April 16 at the Spartan Center on the Bethlehem campus of Northampton Community College. Free tickets at the NCC website.

Transcript
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Welcome to Hip Hop Movie Club, the show

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that harmonizes the rhythm of hip hop

with the magic of movies.

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On today's episode, we present our live

talkback at SteelStacks

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after our screening of the 1985

classic Krush Groove starring Run-D.M.C..

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Blair Underwood and a cast of thousands.

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We want to thank Anthony Desanctis

at ArtsQuest and our man, DJ ARM 18,

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Andrew MacIntosh, for helping us launch

this series.

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We’re three old heads

who to put their old heads together

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to vibe on these films for you.

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I'm DynoWright, podcaster,

filmmaker, longtime hip hop fan.

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And the last time I saw the Beastie

Boys was with A Tribe Called Quest

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and Money Mark in 1998

at Continental Airlines Arena.

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I’m JB.

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80s and 90s nostalgia junkie, longtime

hip hop fan, and one of my greatest

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and silliest childhood memories involves

me and my two friends

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constantly shouting lyrics to “You

Be Illin’”

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while we traipsed

through the Philadelphia Zoo.

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No joke.

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I’d pay to see that.

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Bring it! Come on.

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I’m BooGie, a deejay, longtime

hip hop fan.

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And I grew up in this movie and it’s

remained one of my all time favorites.

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I still own

the original soundtrack on wax.

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And now our live talkback on Krush Groove.

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Yeah.

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Krush Groove, baby.

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All right,

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so thanks for, thanks for watching.

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Yeah.

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Who here is seen this for the first time

just now?

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Okay, okay.

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Nice. Nice, nice.

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We, have a couple of fun facts

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and then some trivia questions throughout

so you can win a couple prizes.

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as you saw in the movie, Run.

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And actually, in real life, Run

and Russell Simmons are brothers, right?

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You guys knew that right?

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And their father

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was actually in the movie

playing the reverend in real.

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The father, real life Daniel Simmons.

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Yes. And actually, this is the story.

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Krush

Groove is a fictional record company,

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but really, it mirrors the story

of the beginnings of Def Jam Records,

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which was founded by Russell

Simmons and Rick Rubin.

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Russell Simmons had a small cameo in here

as, like, the owner of the club.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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Russell Simmons was the, Crockett

who was the manager of the club

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where they were trying to get, Well,

actually, Warren, do you see where she.

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Berkeley out?

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The guy that was trying that was looking

for Run-DMC to come out and perform,

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that was actually Russell

Simmons playing a small cameo.

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And he, along with Rick

Rubin, Rick Rubin was it was,

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you know, running

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the, Krush Groove records

for the most part.

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So I'll pause here and do one quick

trivia question.

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Does anybody know the three full names

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of, three born names

of the members of Run-D.M.C.?

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Raise your hand.

We'll run a mic up to you.

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Only two?

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Who who knows all three?

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I don't know the last.

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That's the toughest one.

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I think it says.

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And you know, Russell

Simmons was not actually in the crew.

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Does anybody know Jam Master

Jay's last name?

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I think that's the stumper.

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Okay. The late Jam Master Jay.

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All right, I'll give you that one.

We have some more questions.

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it is Joseph Simmons.

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You know, Darryl McDaniels. Was.

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And Jason Mizell, the late Jason Mizell.

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Jason Mizell. Yep.

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Alright so the next

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topic I want to talk about is the director

behind the scenes here, Michael Schultz.

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Does everybody know Michael Schultz?

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What he's known for? Okay.

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So Michael Schultz, director

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he also directed a lot of very famous

films.

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I'm just going to mention

a few: Cooley High, the Last Dragon

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Car Wash, Sergeant Pepper's Lonely

Hearts Club Band,

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and Disorderlies,

which featured The Fat Boys and we.

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We did a podcast episode on Disorderlies.

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Maybe one day

we'll have a screening of that as well.

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Another fun fact is that

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Michael Schultz’s first film

that he directed was also Samuel L

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Jackson's first film from 1972,

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called Together for Days.

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Michael Schultz is 85 years old.

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and according to New York Times,

he may be the longest

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working Black director in history,

so it's pretty impressive.

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Yeah.

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All right,

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so next trivia question might be tougher

if you didn't know the three.

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Run-D.M.C..

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Anybody know the names

of the three members of the Fat Boys?

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And they did actually start

as the Disco 3 in real life.

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And they did change to Fat Boys.

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Three full names of the Fat Boys.

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Anybody?

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Getting progressively harder.

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Cue in the Jeopardy!

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music.

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Anybody know one name?

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Prince Markie Dee is one.

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Can anybody name one?

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If anybody name one other one, you can win

the prize.

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Buff was like a nickname, right?

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But, the actual names are Darren

Robinson and Damon Wimbley.

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Okay, so it's a tough one.

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Mark Morales.

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so I'm going to I'll kick it over

to, to BooGie a little bit too.

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So there are a lot of hip hop stars.

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Let's talk about some of the hip hop stars

and hip hop adjacent stars

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that were in the movie.

So I'll name a few.

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You can run some with a few, but yeah.

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Kick it off. I so

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you saw Rick

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Rubin,

who's, who's known for producing and

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he produced Run-DMC,

he founded the Beastie Boys.

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He's worked with acts like Metallica,

Lady Gaga, tons of different.

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He's the man. Yeah.

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well-respected.

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LL Cool J.

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A very young LL Cool J.

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Back in the background, like.

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Yeah. Yeah. So he was

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Chris Rock

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Was Chris Rock?

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I didn't notice Chris Rock.

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Chris Rock in the background

when they're having a fight.

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Oh, wow.

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I gotta check that, Check that out.

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LL Cool J was 17 years old in this film,

which is crazy.

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So to me, this is like a time capsule.

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As a hip hop fan, it's like, wow,

I can't believe they put this on film.

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Fat Boys, Run-D.M.C., obviously.

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Sheila E, New Edition.

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You want to talk about

the members of New Edition?

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So New Edition.

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Yeah, those they had their their shiny

suits on. Ronnie.

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But Ronnie, Bobby, Ricky, Mike and Ralph.

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yeah.

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So New Edition, very talented

boy band from Boston.

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they laid the template

for what would become N’Sync,

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the New Kids on the Block,

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Backstreet Boys, etc.

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but, I love New Edition

because they're such a talented group.

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With you, I always say this is like

one of the things that I would say,

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like,

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there was a big thing called Verzuz when,

you know,

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they were put one group

against another group,

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like New Edition

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is probably one of the only bands

they could do a Verzuz against themselves.

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Yeah. Ralph Tresvant had a solo career.

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Bobby Brown had a solo career.

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We had Bell Biv DeVoe,

they had their own group as a collective.

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Then you have New Edition as a whole.

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Then you throw in Johnny Gill,

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who came in later

and he had his a flourishing solo career.

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So like that was a little snippet

to see New Edition back in the early days.

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And they formed in Boston, Maurice Starr

was the producer behind that.

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He also produced New Kids on the Block,

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etc..

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Doctor Jekyll and Mr.

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Hyde. Who was behind that?

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Yeah, Doctor Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

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the gentleman that you see bouncing around

in the suits with the ties on.

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They were very talented

rap duo, short lived, but very talented.

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They got a couple hits out

from back in the day.

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The gentlemen of, the group

who had the yellow tie,

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Andre Harrell,

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who went on to found Uptown Records,

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very, very big in the New Jack Swing era.

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mentor

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to a well, mentor to Puff

Daddy, who's very famous right now.

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Diddy Bop.

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For unsavory reasons.

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We're not going to go too far

down that rabbit hole.

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But he actually jumpstarted his career

as well.

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Yeah.

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And then Russell Simmons himself

has to cameo, as we mentioned already.

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And then Donnie Simpson.

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Oh, Donnie

Simpson, Donnie Simpson was the, MC

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of the Tin Pan Apple, talent show.

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Donnie Simpson went on to,

get picked up by BET

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for a long run of Video Soul,

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one of the longest running, video

shows on BET

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at that time, and it was good to see him

in there as well.

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Yeah.

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All right,

time for our next trivia question.

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So we see Sheila

E prominently in the film.

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She hit number seven on the US

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Billboard Hot 100 charts in 1984.

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Does anybody know what that big song was?

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You got it: The Glamorous Life.

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Give that man a prize. Yeah.

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You want to them.

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You want to run in run of the press.

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Oh, there's my alarm. Oh.

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That's the alarm that goes off

when it's time to record the podcast.

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Here's the bonus question.

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Does anybody know what the E stands for in

Sheila E.

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Hey. Ed’s got it.

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(Escovedo) There you go. That is correct.

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With that bonus information.

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I guess.

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Question was,

why Jekyll and Hyde don't rap in the.

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movie? Something

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that they were actually on

on Rush's on Rush's, management.

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Honestly, I'm not really sure

I can actually look that up.

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I'm not sure.

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You know?

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So always wanted.

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And the last topic

is the soundtrack itself.

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There was a lot of songs in here

that, stand out.

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You saw

if I Ruled the World by Kurtis Blow

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and, DJ ARM reminding me that actually was

originally a James Brown song.

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And the younger folks or

the generation behind us know it from Nas.

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He did a version of If I Ruled the World.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, classic with Lauryn Hill.

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Yeah, She's On It by the Beastie Boys.

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That song was produced

just for this movie.

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That's not on License to Ill.

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That was like a single,

that that was produced,

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Tender Love by Force MDs, this classic.

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Classic.

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One of the great slow

jams of all time. Yes.

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LL Cool.

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J, I Can't Live Without My Radio.

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And this, right here,

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that that was produced

just for this as well.

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Yeah.

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And the Fat Boys had a few, few songs.

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All You Can Eat was actually. So.

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Yeah. All You Can Eat, I love this song.

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Sheila E had, Holly Rock.

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Krush Groovin’ was by the Fat Boys.

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The the end credit there and Love Triangle

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when there was the love triangle type

scene that’s the Gap Band.

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Yes, those are some of the key ones.

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There's a few others,

but yeah. Great soundtrack.

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Very good song.

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You owned it, right?

I still do. I still have it on wax.

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Still got it from when it first came out.

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The DJ has it on wax.

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I got one more trivia to give out here.

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Can anybody give me the full names

of all three of the Beastie Boys?

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Full names who?

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No sleep till Brooklyn.

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I'll give you a hint.

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Two of them had the same first name.

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There was only one Mike.

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That's right. Yeah.

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Adam Horovitz?

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That's one.

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Yeah.

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Yes. Another one.

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Anybody give all three?

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There it is.

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There it is. Yeah.

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So does Joey get it? Young buck gets it.

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All right young buck Joe. You get it.

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All right. J-Prince gets it! It.

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It was Michael Diamond, Adam Horowitz

and Adam Yauch, the late Adam Yauch.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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that will do it. Thank you all for coming.

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Appreciate the support.

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I hope you enjoyed the show. Yes, yes.

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just one quick thing.

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I'd be remiss

if I didn't mention two things coming up.

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One, coming up soon.

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Here's a way to remember the months

that start with A and the number 16.

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So April 16th,

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Chuck D,

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will be at Northampton Community College,

the legendary frontman of Public Enemy.

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DJ ARM 18, Andrew

McIntosh will be hosting the discussion.

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Again, free tickets available at

Northampton Community College's website.

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You won't want to miss it.

It's a hot ticket.

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Come out for that to support.

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And then our next event here

is not until August

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16th and we will be showing House Party,

the classic House Party.

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Classic Kid N Play.

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We want to pack it

and have a full house party.

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So spread the word. Yes.

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And tell your friends and family.

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Tell your friends and family.

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Unfortunately, I think the budget

may be out for the free shows.

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That might be a ticketed price,

but it'll be well worth it.

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Want to make a real house party.

A nominal fee.

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Nominal fee.

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All right, everybody, get home safe.

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Thank you.

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Thanks for coming out.

Get home safe. God bless.

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Bring it!

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Come on!

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Hip Hop Movie Club is produced by your

HH emcees, JB, BooGie and DynoWright.

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Theme music by BooGie.

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Follow us on Instagram

@HipHopMovieClub and again

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come out to a conversation with Chuck D

on April 16th at the Spartan Center,

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at the Bethlehem campus of Northaampton

Community College.

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We'll be there. Come out and hang with us.

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Get your free tickets

for that at Northampton.edu.

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Whether you're listening to the podcast

or watching us on YouTube,

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we appreciate you.

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Thanks for tuning in.

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Bring it!

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Come on!

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About the Podcast

Hip Hop Movie Club
Harmonizing the rhythm of hip hop with the magic of movies
HHMC is brought to you by a trio of longtime hip hop fans: JB, an 80s and 90s nostalgia junkie, Boogie, a veteran DJ and graffiti artist, and DynoWright, podcaster and filmmaker.

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